https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/ Liberalizing cities | From the bottom up Fri, 14 Jan 2022 17:30:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.1 https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-21172 Mon, 16 May 2016 08:18:00 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-21172 “Good Lord, Moscow has a power plant right across the river from the Kremlin. We would never do that!” – New Yorker from a city where there was a power plant right next to the UN until a few years ago

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-13532 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:01:37 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-13532 […] for me. Anyway, here's a density comparison between Moscow and Paris nei posted in another thread: The economics of redevelopment and the shape of socialist cities | Market Urbanism Apparently, Moscow is denser in its periphery, contrary to Paris. Housing density map: […]

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-13428 Tue, 03 Sep 2013 16:35:36 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-13428 […] One of the most interesting short pieces on the subjects. In soviet russia, density increases as go away from the city center. The economics of redevelopment and the shape of socialist cities | Market Urbanism […]

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-13280 Tue, 09 Jul 2013 02:02:51 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-13280 […] or Barcelona, but unlike Paris, few people living at low densities. Has the bizzare pattern that it gets denser as you get away from the center. Tokyo doesn't reach very high densities, it just stays even at moderately high densities for a […]

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-12939 Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:20:52 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-12939 […] trips (or suburb to suburb), New York City comes out worst of all. Not sure about Moscow, but its layout concentrates people at high density at the periphery, the reverse of all 3 other […]

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-12722 Sat, 27 Oct 2012 13:36:38 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-12722 […] cities are that they have the densest development not in the center, but on the city outskirts: The economics of redevelopment and the shape of socialist cities | Market Urbanism Look at Paris vs Moscow! NYC follows the same pattern as Paris, but its density profile stays […]

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-11967 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:27:35 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-11967 […] Edmonton's distribution looks more like Calgary than Victoria. I have visited both Victoria and Halifax. Victoria was surprisingly dense for a small West Coast city, at least near the core, but I expected Halifax to have a higher index given its age and its low density suburbs. I forgot weighted density is an average rather than a median. The median Paris resident might be at a higher density than the median New York resident, but the high density core of New York skews the average. I still don't think any other city, and definitely not Barcelona, would have a higher density gradient index, because I think in most non-North American cities, a denser urban core is correlated with denser suburbs, but we'll have to see actual numbers. I'm curious if you do get a place with a high index, perhaps higher than 3.5. Looking at the graph I looked, NYC had denser suburbs than just about all non-western US cities, looking at the density of the less dense 10-30 residents. I remember I took someone from the DC suburbs around Long Island and he was surprised how dense some of the housing was. A good portion of the lowest densities of the New York metro are taken by wealthy estate-size home, that are very small in population but use enormous amounts of land; helped by the income inequality of the metro. I'm envisioning as an extreme a metro area where the majority of people live in crowded tenements and the wealthy live on large palatial estates. Speaking of tenements, look at the extreme densities of Manhattan 100 years ago: New York (Manhattan) Wards: Population & Density 1800-1910 Today the densest neighborhood listed are close to a 1/4 of the density. London, Paris and NYC are I think, are the only 3 "megacities" built before mechanized transportation; a population above 3 million or so before subway or automobiles (I'm excluding streetcars). My definition might be a bit off, but I think they were much larger than the rest of cities worldwide in the late 19th century. So, why is London so much less dense? Around 1900, its densest neighborhoods were at levels of 60k/sq mile, maybe one somewhat higher. Perhaps London had a more decentralized job centers, so there was less incentive to cluster. NYC's neighborhoods might have especially dense because it was on an island. But even after subways were extended to outer boroughs, some sections were still built at very high densities. Just because two cities have the same weighted densities doesn't mean the density is distributed the same way. For example, in communism, cities got denser as you get away from the core: The economics of redevelopment and the shape of socialist cities | Market Urbanism […]

]]> https://marketurbanism.com/2010/10/19/the-economics-of-redevelopment-and-the-shape-of-socialist-cities/#comment-11646 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:13:04 +0000 http://www.marketurbanism.com/?p=1648#comment-11646 […] is where his planning may be in error. As Market Urbanism and Alain Bertaud (check his analysis of Mumbai’s zoning system) have argued, the problem […]

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