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		<title>HSR Urbanists: &#8220;We Are All O&#8217;Tooles Now&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I probably won&#8217;t make any friends today, but now I’ve read one too many urbanist (many who’s ideas I usually respect) use unsound logic to support high speed rail.  This argument often includes something like this: “…and furthermore, highways and airports don’t come close to paying for themselves, therefore high speed rail need not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably won&#8217;t make any friends today, but now I’ve read one too many urbanist (many who’s ideas I usually respect) use unsound logic to support high speed rail.  This argument often includes something like this: “…and furthermore, highways and airports don’t come close to paying for themselves, therefore high speed rail need not meet that hurdle either.”</p>
<p>Here’s some examples of the typical contradiction many usually-reasonable urbanists are making when arguing for high speed rail- </p>
<p>Ryan Avent in an <a href="http://dc.streetsblog.org/2009/08/28/toward-a-positive-argument-for-high-speed-rail/">article plagued with this pseudo-logic</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Government is going to build more capacity. Given that, what is likely to be the best investment, all things considered?</p>
<p>Available alternatives, as it turns out, are not all that attractive. Roads do not appear to pay for themselves any more than railways do. Receipts from the federal gas tax come close to covering federal highway expenditures, but gas is used on highways and non-highways alike, indicating that at the federal level, highways are subsidized.
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<p><a href="http://www.ryanavent.com/blog/?p=2216">and</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I respect Mr Cowen very much, but I think it’s long past time we stopped listening to libertarians on the issue of whether or not to build high-speed rail. Who will ask whether road construction remotely passes any of the tests they’re so prepared to push on rail? And if we begin charging an appropriate fee on drivers to maintain existing roads and reduce congestion, what do they all think will happen to land use patterns and transportation mode share?</p>
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<p>Some have emailed to ask me why I dislike Randal O’Toole so much.&#160; The main reason is because people like Avent will always be able to point to the government highway-lover from CATO and rashly proclaim all libertarians have forever lost credibility when it comes to transportation and land use.&#160; Of course, Avent’s narrow-mindedness on this topic deserves contempt too.</p>
<p>And <a href="http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/08/25/hey-ed-glaeser-youre-wrong-better-numbers-shows-high-speed-rail-pays-for-itself/">Infrastructurist&#8217;s</a> take seems to be favored by Avent, Yglesias, and others:</p>
<blockquote><p>The construction of a high-speed rail line would require a large environmental sacrifice – construction crews would need to shape the land, poor concrete, lay the tracks, and build the stations. This work would release millions of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. But building a new highway such as Texas’ planned I-69 would require similar work and would almost certainly be just as ecologically damaging. On a somewhat smaller scale, the same can be said for new terminals or runways at airports.</p>
<p>In a rapidly growing state like Texas, though, a serious need for a transportation capacity upgrade is bound to arise over the next decades – especially between the state’s two biggest cities. The construction of this infrastructure would require carbon emissions on a large scale–but since we don’t yet have competing plans for highway or airport capacity expansions if the high-speed system is not built, the most meaningful question for us is the rail system’s environmental effects in <em>operations</em> rather than construction.</p>
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<p>So, in other words, building either of the options, roads or rail both require &#8220;a large environmental sacrifice&#8221;, but all other options must be kept off the table, so let&#8217;s just sweep that under the rug.&#160; Yet, there is an other option to consider for those who really think something should be done about carbon: STOP WASTING MATERIAL AND ENERGY ON CONSTRUCTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE BOONDOGGLES THAT SUBSIDIZE TRANSPORTATION!&#160; That still goes double for roads and airports, where congestion and carbon emissions could be reduced through revenue-generating measures such as congestion tolling.</p>
<p>To me, the high-speed rail logic just doesn’t sound much <a href="http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=528">different from what O’Toole</a> might say (just interchange some words and continue to ignore facts):</p>
<blockquote><p>Not only did the Interstate Highway System cost much less and move much more than our visionary rail network is likely to do, interstate highways have the virtue of being 100 percent paid for out of user fees. The rail system would require subsidies for pretty much all of the capital costs, most or all of the periodic rehabilitation costs, and at least some of the operating costs.</p>
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<p>In the <a href="http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/08/25/hey-ed-glaeser-youre-wrong-better-numbers-shows-high-speed-rail-pays-for-itself/">Infrastructurist article</a> quoted above, Yonah Freemark smear’s Ed Gaeser’s <a href="http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/high-speed-rail/">back of the envelope critique of high speed rail</a> (I admit, a <a href="http://www.austincontrarian.com/austincontrarian/2009/08/glaeser-on-hsr-1.html">little sloppy</a>) with a hand-waving claim sounding eerily similar to the type Mr. O’Toole is so often criticized for making, “High Speed Rail Pays For Itself”.</p>
<p>He backs this bold claim with a <a href="http://www.infrastructurist.com/docs/Dallas-Houston.pdf">calculation</a> that shows how a hypothetical Dallas-Houston high speed corridor would cost $810M annually for construction and maintenance, while providing $840M in benefit.&#160; Surely, we will see many more people use this analysis as evidence to back claims that high speed rail is good <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/08/endgame-71.php">without proper scrutiny</a>.&#160; However, this analysis doesn’t even pass the O’Toole-level test of credibility, because it claims it <em>pays</em> for itself with 150M annually in carbon savings.&#160; I can understand making the case for analyzing carbon savings as a “benefit” to society, but one must compare against all other options for use of cash to reduce carbon emissions – at least against a no-build + congestion toll option.&#160; Just think of all the alternatives one might consider with a $810M annual budget for carbon reduction.  At say $20/ton, that comes to 40 million tons a year.</p>
<p>On top of that, Freemark ignores all the other opportunity costs Randal O’Toole conveniently omits when claiming roads pay for themselves.&#160; These omissions include:&#160; opportunity cost of <em>investment</em> capital, <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/09/06/correction-reason-orgs-plug-and-glaeser-on-jacobs/"><del datetime="2009-09-06T05:33:59+00:00">opportunity cost of right of way land used, legal costs of eminent domain and related delays,</del></a> <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/01/12/urbanism-legend-positive-npv-infrastructure/">inevitable cost overruns</a>, accounting for <a href="http://flyvbjerg.plan.aau.dk/bftruthlyingpub.php">optimism bias</a>, and interest on bonds.&#160; In my opinion, the largest of these is the opportunity costs of investment capital, which I would guess at over 15 percent <strong>compounding annually</strong> (vs a non-compounding 5% generously assumed by Glaeser and Freemark) for all costs during the 10 years (just a little optimistic?) of construction, and 8-10 percent once ridership is stabilized.&#160; Responding to <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/08/endgame-71.php">Matthew Yglesias’ hasty endorsement of Freemark’s analysis as “A real cost-benefit analysis of HSR”</a>, <a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/08/a-costbenefit-analysis-of-highspeed-rail/comments/page/2/#comments">Tyler Cowen similarly noted</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m not sure what discount rates he is using but even if we put that problem aside this screams out: <strong>don&#8217;t do it</strong>.&#160; Given irreversible investment, lock-in effects, and required hurdle rates of return, this still falls into the &quot;no&quot; category.&#160; And that&#8217;s an estimate from an advocate writing a polemic on behalf of the idea.&#160; I&#8217;m not even considering the likelihood of inflation on the cost side or the public choice problems with getting a good rather than a bad version of the project.&#160; How well has the Northeast corridor been run?</p>
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<p>The urbanist in me would love a vast high speed rail network – it would centralize density at rail nodes and aid agglomeration.&#160; But it just won’t be viable until government first stops wasting money subsidizing automobile and air travel.&#160; In the meantime, HSR advocates commit an intellectual fraud similar to ones <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/07/30/urbanism-legend-gas-taxes-covers-all-costs-of-road-use/">Randal O’Toole and his ilk make regarding roads</a> when they make claims that HSR can pay for itself.&#160; </p>
<p>If Ryan Avent is expecting to keep any credibility on infrastructure spending using these words: </p>
<blockquote><p>In this country, we do not build transportation infrastructure for profit. Perhaps this is upsetting to the libertarians among us, but that&#8217;s how it is and how it should be.</p>
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<p>Then, perhaps he should think twice next time he thinks of <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/02/randal-otoole-taking-liberties-with-the-facts/">laying into Randal O’Toole</a> for attempting to reconcile infrastructure spending using similarly shoddy arguments.  Otherwise, similar to O&#8217;Toole, all the HSR advocates are saying is, &#8220;Never mind billions of dollars that must be appropriated from people of future generations.  Never mind that most of those footing the bill will never ride high speed rail if they&#8217;re not fortunate enough to afford a ticket or don&#8217;t live in one of the chosen cities.  Never mind the drastic effects of the construction on the environment.  High speed rail would be a pretty neat thing for some cities, so &#8216;build baby build&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>O&#8217;Toole Under More Fire</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>At Streetsblog, Ryan Avent presented a scorching attack on the most notorious free-market impostor &#8211; Randal O’Toole: Taking Liberties With the Facts for his consistent hypocrisy:</p>
<p>The Cato Institute&#8217;s Randal O’Toole gets under the skin of many of those interested in building a more rational and green metropolitan geography, but in many ways he’s an ideal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Streetsblog, Ryan Avent presented a scorching attack on the most notorious <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/category/free-market-impostors/">free-market impostor</a> &#8211; <em><a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/02/randal-otoole-taking-liberties-with-the-facts/">Randal O’Toole: Taking Liberties With the Facts</a></em> for his consistent hypocrisy:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Cato Institute&#8217;s Randal O’Toole gets under the skin of many of those interested in building a more rational and green metropolitan geography, but in many ways he’s an ideal opponent. It would be difficult to concoct more transparently foolish arguments than his. The man is an engine of self-parody.</p></blockquote>
<p>The requisite identification of “libertarian” contradictions:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is one thing I’ve never understood about the libertarian love affair with highways; they seem utterly blind to the fact that it has required and continues to require massive government action to build and maintain the road network. The interstate highway system is perhaps the single largest government intervention in the economy in the 20th century. Reading O’Toole you’d think it was a wonder of the free market.</p></blockquote>
<p>And with ease, Ryan points out the data needed to take O’Toole to task on his persistent assertion the “roads pay for themselves”:</p>
<blockquote><p>The source of his blindness on the issue seems to be due to his belief that roads pay for themselves, and that congestion exists only because governments shift gas tax revenue to pay for transit and other smart growth projects. Nothing could be farther from the truth.</p>
<p>In the first place, gas tax revenue comes nowhere near paying for roads. Federal gasoline tax <a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/rlc/pix/artbachart.jpg"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">revenues</span></a> cover barely half of the annual <a href="http://www.dot.gov/bib2008/bibpart05fhwa.htm"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">budget</span></a> of the Federal Highway Administration. Add in diesel tax revenues and you’re still short. And that’s just the federal budget picture.</p></blockquote>
<p>In response, Randal replies to critics in the comments of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=1415">his latest post</a> of his “Antiplanner” blog:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Antiplanner sees the American dream as freedom of lifestyle choices and opportunities to realize those choices unfettered by government subsidies or restrictions.</p>
<p>As for the claim in D4P’s link that the Antiplanner ignores highway subsidies, I’ve addressed that many times in this blog. Yes, there are highway subsidies, but they are tiny compared to transit subsidies. I oppose all subsidies. Will D4P agree with me that we should get rid of all subsidies and then let people make their own choices?</p></blockquote>
<p>Great!  So, this is the standard by which the “anti”planner wishes to be judged?  Very well &#8211; From now on, this shall be the standard I shall point out his hypocrisies.</p>
<p>The rhetoric of his first statement is noble, but I don’t think Randal read Avent’s post, or simply evades the arguments.  I’d like to see him rebut Avents arguments directly, as opposed to brushing them aside.  To assert that transit subsidies outweigh highway subsidies may be true when only considering the proportion of public vs private funding, but is absolutely absurd when compared on a national scale, especially over the past 70 years.  I’m more than willing to grant to him that transit is significantly over-subsidized, but the vast subsidies to highways over the years have empowered planners to shape the landscape irreversibly away from what one would expect when “unfettered by government subsidies”.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, O’Toole and Avent both understate the scale of highway subsidization when looking at explicit costs (or accounting costs) and neglecting <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/07/30/urbanism-legend-gas-taxes-covers-all-costs-of-road-use/">opportunity costs</a>.  First, highways take up a vast amount of real estate, which can no longer be used productively.  Second, publicly-run transportation enjoys tax-free status, saving agencies on property taxes, sales taxes, taxes on revenue generated, and other significant expenses.  At the same time, accounting costs neglect the opportunity cost of capital diverted from private investment for public projects, Capital projects should earn a return sufficient to “pay for itself” plus a profit for the capital put at risk, but funding for public projects usually come from low-interest, tax-exempt bonds.  I didn’t even mention parking mandates and subsidies, cost of policing and a vast array of externalities.</p>
<p>Thus, when considering opportunity costs under any accounting comparison, all transportation is clearly subsidized at an amount that is absolutely unsustainable by private (“unfettered by government” interventions) means.  <strong>For the intellectually corrupt “anti”planner to consider highway subsidies “tiny” is a completely absurd disregard for the rational examination of reality.</strong></p>
<p>For more, read, <strong><a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/07/30/urbanism-legend-gas-taxes-covers-all-costs-of-road-use/">Urban[ism] Legend: Gas Taxes and Fees Cover All Costs of Road Use</a></strong>.</p>
<p>or some of O’Toole’s rare attempts at analyzing gas taxes and highway subsidies:</p>
<p>http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=88<br />
http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=500</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In his last two urbanism-related posts, Matthew Yglesias makes great points only to dissolve them in a vat of unrelated statements posed as conclusions.  His logical inconsistency seems to invalidate his otherwise pretty good blogging on urbanism.</p>
<p>A couple days ago, Matthew blogged about regulation of neighborhood retail, quoting a DC blog:</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his last two urbanism-related posts, Matthew Yglesias makes great points only to dissolve them in a vat of unrelated statements posed as conclusions.  His logical inconsistency seems to invalidate his otherwise pretty good blogging on urbanism.</p>
<p>A couple days ago, Matthew <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/life-is-good-with-neighborhood-retail.php">blogged about regulation of neighborhood retail</a>, quoting a DC blog:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>“In DC, zoning laws make that idea </em>[mixed-use retail]<em> prohibitive, and what the zoning laws don’t cover ANC and neighborhood groups do in their zealousness to protect residents from interspersing residences with commercial activity.”</em></p>
<p><em>….</em></p>
<p>I really and truly wish libertarians would spend more time working on this kind of issue. And I also wish that ordinary people would think harder about these kind of regulations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes!  More, please?   But then, the next sentence leaves me saying, “huh?”:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m a big government liberal. I believe business regulations are often needed. But still, there ought to be a <em>presumption</em> that people can do what they want.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, I really don’t understand what this post has to do with libertarians anymore – why even mention them. It seems logically inconsistent to presume people can do what they want, while presuming a big government can regulate their economic choices.</p>
<p>Now, <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/transportation-planning-requires-planning.php">on to today’s post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://marketurbanism.com/category/free-market-impostors/">Randall O’Toole</a> is a relentless advocate for highways and automobile dependency in the United States. Consequently, I don’t agree with him about very much.  But the thing I consistently find most bizarre about him, is that the <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/06/free-market-impostors/">Cato Institute</a> and the <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/07/18/reasonorgs-staley-not-in-favor-of-property-rights-if/">Reason Foundation</a> have both agreed to agree with O’Toole that his support for highways and automobile dependency is a species of <em>libertarianism</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>then…</p>
<blockquote><p>Central planning, of course, is the reverse of libertarianism. So if promoting alternative transportation is central planning, then building highways everywhere must be freedom! But of course in the real world building highways <em>is also central planning</em>. The Long Island Expressway is not a free market phenomenon.</p></blockquote>
<p>Alright!  This fits in with our <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/05/20/are-you-a-wright-or-friedman-urbanist/">recent discussions</a> at Market Urbanism! (and <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/05/13/do-we-need-new-urbanism-to-fix-unwalkable-sprawl/">here</a>)  But, of course he concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s just a field that, intrinsically, requires a lot of planning. The question is about what kinds of plans to make.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, libertarians should agree with you, but they’re wrong anyway?</p>
<p>Either Yglesias has some hidden respect for free-markets and has to add caveats to maintain his progressive street-cred, or he has some kind of chip on his shoulder and has to call out the hypocrites in circles he doesn’t respect anyways…  (the latter, I would interpret as a rational fear of the potency of free-market philosophy – at least not the <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/category/free-market-impostors/">impostor</a> brand)</p>
<p>&#8212;-</p>
<p>Also check out <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/597">c4ss:  Libertarians Against Sprawl</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Fighting sprawl isn’t a matter of imposing new government mandates.  It’s a matter of scaling back existing restrictions on mixed use development, and prying the mouths of the real estate industry and the automobile-highway complex off the taxpayer teat. It’s not clear that can be done without abolishing government completely.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Are You a Wright or Friedman Urbanist?</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2009/05/20/are-you-a-wright-or-friedman-urbanist/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In a post blogger Eric Orozco called, ‘forerunner candidate for &#8220;most incisive blog post&#8221; of the year,’ Daniel Nairn of Discovering Urbanism discussed the seemingly conflicted camps of libertarianism when it comes to Urbanism.  His observations are based upon the comments in the Volokh article on planning and walkability linked in the previous post.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a post <a href="http://properscale.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">blogger Eric Orozco</a> called, <em>‘forerunner candidate for &#8220;most incisive blog post&#8221; of the year</em>,’ Daniel Nairn of <a href="http://discoveringurbanism.blogspot.com/2009/05/cities-and-libertarianisms.html">Discovering Urbanism discussed</a> the seemingly conflicted camps of libertarianism when it comes to Urbanism.  His observations are based upon the comments in the <a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1242170482.shtml">Volokh article on planning and walkability</a> linked in the <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/05/13/do-we-need-new-urbanism-to-fix-unwalkable-sprawl/">previous post</a>.</p>
<p>Daniel (a non-libertarian) presents the opposing libertarian factions as <em>The Wright Group</em>, after Frank Lloyd Wright and his romanticism about individualistic prairie living and <em>The Friedman Group</em>, which &#8220;believes that the spatial distribution of development ought to be determined by a free market.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>The Wright group seems to favor optimizing individual autonomy through spatial living arrangements even if doing so requires centralizing economic and political authority to some extent. The Friedman group seems to favor optimizing individual autonomy through market decisions even if doing so results in more people living in situations where full control over private property is compromised in some way.</p></blockquote>
<p>Daniel&#8217;s insightful choice of figureheads fascinates me from a philosophical point of view.  Frank Lloyd Wright was hardly a libertarian, but had strong individualist tendencies, and is <a href="http://articles.dhwritings.com/f07.html">said to be the model</a> for Howard Roark&#8217;s character in Ayn Rand&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452286751?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=markeurban-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0452286751">The Fountainhead</a><img style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=markeurban-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0452286751" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />.  Milton Friedman, a Nobel Laurette Economist, is probably one of the most famous figures of modern libertarian thought.  Despite Friedman&#8217;s steadfast defense of liberty, he had favored government roads on occasion.</p>
<p>I think most would agree that <em>The Friedman Group</em>, as Daniel describes it, is more closely aligned with the thesis of Market Urbanism and the ideas of emergent order of the land marketplace.  <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/03/31/intro-to-emergent-urbanism/">Hayek </a>or even <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/05/04/public-educations-role-in-sprawl-and-exclusion/">Rothbard</a> may also be considered appropriate, although less famous substitutes as figurehead.</p>
<p>(note: I&#8217;m not sure what Daniel means by,  &#8220;even if doing so results in more people living in situations where full control over private property is compromised in some way.&#8221;  If he means more people choosing to live in multifamily dwellings and rentals, then I agree, and I&#8217;m perfectly fine with that outcome.)</p>
<p>In my opinion, <em>The Wright Group</em> is hardly libertarian.  I would describe<em> The Wright Group</em> as either autonomists (as opposed to libertarians), or <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/category/free-market-impostors/">Free-Market impostors</a> like <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/tag/randall-otoole/">Randal O&#8217;Toole</a> who wave the free-market flag while turning a blind eye to the coercive distortions of road socialism and ubiquitous suburban zoning that prevent any deviation from segregated, single-family homes.</p>
<p>Above all, I appreciate Daniel&#8217;s intellectual exploration of libertarianism in relation to urbanism.  Even if he doesn&#8217;t keep free-markets as his ideological worldview, his open-minded search for truth should give him an edge over thinkers who reject free-market concepts without any fair inquiry.  Daniel&#8217;s post is a fantastic thought provoking piece, and I encourage all of you to <a href="http://discoveringurbanism.blogspot.com/2009/05/cities-and-libertarianisms.html">read and coment for yourselves at <strong>Discovering Urbanism</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Redistribution (a follow up)</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2009/01/26/redistribution-a-follow-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I threw up Friday&#8217;s Redistribution post somewhat hastily during my break, but there isn&#8217;t much more that I haven&#8217;t said before.  As a follow-up, I&#8217;d like to tie it in with some other interesting reads.</p>
<p>Ryan Avent at The Bellows agreed with Yglesias&#8217; post and added:</p>
<p>Anyway, I saw in Google reader that libertarian intellectual Will Wilkinson [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I threw up Friday&#8217;s <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2009/01/23/redistribution/">Redistribution</a> post somewhat hastily during my break, but there isn&#8217;t much more that I haven&#8217;t said before.  As a follow-up, I&#8217;d like to tie it in with some other interesting reads.</p>
<p>Ryan Avent at <a href="http://www.ryanavent.com/blog/?p=1756">The Bellows agreed </a>with Yglesias&#8217; post and added:</p>
<blockquote><p>Anyway, I saw in Google reader that libertarian intellectual <a href="http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/">Will Wilkinson</a> had shared Matt’s post, presumably because he agreed with it. And indeed, this is one of those times when libertarians and liberals can find common cause. On the other hand, most of <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/category/free-market-impostors/">Cato’s planner types </a>vigorously defend suburban sprawl and highway construction, and vigorously oppose smart growth and transit construction, despite the obvious point that it takes an immense web of regulations and subsidies to support rapid suburban and exurban growth.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Over here!  Ryan, Will!  We&#8217;re over here!&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Definitely check out The Bellows post.  Will Wilkinson stopped in to comment, too.</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;common cause&#8221; concept was conveyed well in Ed Glaeser&#8217;s recent NY Times piece, called <a rel="nofollow" href="http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/the-case-for-small-government-egalitarianism/">The Case for Small-Government Egalitarianism</a>.  Harvard&#8217;s Glaeser reaches out for &#8220;common cause&#8221; between libertarians and progressives &#8211; kinda like the links between <em>Free-Markets</em> and <em>Urbanism</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Libertarian progressivism distrusts big increases in government spending because that spending is likely to favor the privileged. Was the Interstate Highway System such a boon for the urban poor? Has rebuilding New Orleans done much for the displaced and disadvantaged of that city? Small-government egalitarianism suggests that direct transfers of federal money to the less fortunate offer a surer path toward a fairer America.</p></blockquote>
<p>and</p>
<blockquote><p>Many of my favorite causes, like <a rel="nofollow" href="http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/two-ways-to-revamp-us-housing-policy/">fighting land use regulations that make it hard to build affordable housing</a>, aid the poor by reducing the size of government. In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, I also argued that it would be far better to give generous checks to the poor hurt by the storm than to spend billions rebuilding the city, because those rebuilding efforts would inevitably help connected contractors more than ordinary people.</p></blockquote>
<p>Urbanism is an area where free-market folks and progressive city dwellers can work together and share knowledge on so many concepts &#8211; I think we&#8217;ll find we have more in common than what&#8217;s on the surface.  As <a href="http://theamericanscene.com/2009/01/26/-liberal-tarian-vs-progressive-carbon-regulation-why-matt-yglesias-should-care-about-ed-glaeser-s-point">Noah Millman puts it</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But forgive me if I question the proposition that any political group is actually purely rational, and actually acting entirely out of concern for the common good. People who are, fundamentally, more distrustful of big government because they are convinced it will inevitably become the tool of special interests against the common good will be <em>more alive</em> to the kinds of things that can go wrong with big-government solutions than will other kinds of liberals who lack that basic distrust. By the same token, libertarians might be more likely to be won over to liberal perspectives if liberals can articulate arguments that libertarians would respect about how their policy proposals will actually limit government capture by special interests.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Urban[ism] Legend: Positive NPV Infrastructure</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2009/01/12/urbanism-legend-positive-npv-infrastructure/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As Washington debates how many hundreds-of-billions of the nearly trillion-dollar stimulus will go towards infrastructure or to other spending/tax cut schemes, pundits claim that spending billions on &#8220;shovel ready&#8221; public works projects can effectively create jobs that will lead to recovery. As readers probably know, I am skeptical that the anticipated spending could be activated [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Washington debates how many hundreds-of-billions of the nearly trillion-dollar stimulus will go towards infrastructure or to other spending/tax cut schemes, pundits claim that spending billions on &#8220;shovel ready&#8221; public works projects can effectively create jobs that will lead to recovery. As <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/12/08/urbanism-legend-creating-jobs-with-infrastructure/">readers probably know</a>, I am skeptical that the anticipated spending could be activated <a href="http://www.cafehayek.com/hayek/2009/01/no-hurry.html">so quickly</a>. As <a href="http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2009/01/08/obama-stimulus-income-oped-cx_bb_0109bartlett.html">Bruce Bartlett put it</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Despite claims by the Conference of Mayors and the transportation lobby that there is as much as $96 billion in construction “ready to go,” the fact is that it takes a long time before meaningful numbers of workers can be hired for such projects.</p>
<p>As a recent Congressional Budget Office <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/89xx/doc8916/01-15-Econ_Stimulus.pdf">study</a> explains, “Practically speaking … public works involve long start-up lags. … Even those that are ‘on the shelf’ generally cannot be undertaken quickly enough to provide timely stimulus to the economy.”</p>
<p>The prospects for unconventional projects such as alternative energy sources are even worse. The CBO calls them “totally impractical for counter-cyclical policy” because they take even longer to come online…</p>
<p>Finally, the impact of increased public works spending on state and local governments cannot be ignored. Most federal transportation spending goes for projects initiated by them. When they think there is a chance that the federal government will increase its funding, they tend to cut back on their own spending in hopes that the feds will foot the bill. A study by economist Edward Gramlich found that the $2 billion appropriated by the Local Public Works Act of 1976 postponed $22 billion in total spending as state and local governments competed for federal funds and actually reduced GDP by $30 billion ($225 billion today).</p></blockquote>
<p>Meanwhile, proponents of infrastructure spending claim that Congress should sift through the shelved projects to identify those projects that will be economically beneficial, or in other words, have a &#8220;positive net present value&#8221;. One particular <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/category/free-market-impostors/">free-market impostor</a> is <a href="http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=850">bold enough</a> to advocate highway spending, as &#8220;new roads can largely pay for themselves through tolls and other user fees.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the non-financial types, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value">Net Present Value</a> (NPV) is the amount of wealth created, discounted (per the time value of money) to the present, of a particular endeavor. Or in other words, positive NPV projects are expected to &#8220;pay for themselves&#8221;, from an investment point of view. As a simple rule, opportunities that have a positive NPV should be pursued, and negative NPV projects should be avoided.</p>
<p>2008 Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman possibly infers positive NPV when <a rel="nofollow" href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/is-obama-relying-too-much-on-tax-cuts/?apage=5">he says</a> &#8220;public investment leaves something of value behind when the stimulus is over&#8221;, but just because <em>something of value is left behind</em> doesn&#8217;t mean it was a good investment or that it had positive NPV. At the same time, if not inferring positive NPV, Krugman&#8217;s inference that <em>something of value is left behind</em> by private investment makes me think that he actually believes NY Times readers will be easily deceived by his amateurish sleight of hand.</p>
<p>While we know that <em>something of value</em> will be created by infrastructure spending, how certain can we be that alternative spending ideas won&#8217;t create something of <em>greater</em> value.</p>
<p>Those who claim positive NPV public infrastructure projects are plentiful neglect some common features of infrastructure projects. From my first-hand experience and study, ambitious, large-scale projects are vulnerable to <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/12/cta-super-station-mothballed/">huge cost overruns</a>. I don&#8217;t feel I&#8217;m going out going out on a limb when I say that very large projects that are completed on-budget or under-budget are a rarity.</p>
<p>Having been involved with many extremely large projects, one thing has been consistent &#8211; they have grossly cost more than originally conceived. There are long-standing <em>jokes</em> (not so funny for taxpayers) among consultants that when estimating big projects in Chicago (and I imagine everywhere), you have to assume the cost at the end of the day will be a factor of 2-3 times as expensive. (The factor varies depending on whether it&#8217;s airport work, highway work, or other boondoggles.)</p>
<p>I typically attribute the under-estimation to &#8220;optimism bias&#8221; of project proponents. Politicians promise the public benefits of the project to voters, and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-583522301.html">if lucky</a> have the project named after themselves.  Often, by the time the over-budget project is complete, the politician&#8217;s term will have ended. If all goes as planned, the politician will have moved to a higher office by then. Often, voters forget the cost over-runs of a boondoggle project once they start using it. After all, it was only a few dollars out of each of their pockets.</p>
<p>Furthermore, bureaucrats are driven to expand their departments and budgets. Designers and consultants who advise on the feasibility of the project are interested in eventually having the inside track on the full commission They thus have the incentive to low ball cost estimates, and inflate benefits. Contractors initially bid low, knowing huge projects are full of changes that are typically more lucrative than the original scope.  Estimators often neglect potential risks such as unexpected soil conditions.  They may neglect these things out of expediency, incompetence, or willfully in order to further a project that has the potential to bring future fees.</p>
<p>Industry lobbies produce studies that exaggerate the need for certain projects. Furthermore, project feasibility studies often neglect or underestimate the time needed to condemn the land needed for the large projects, as they usually are not careful to properly anticipate resistance from landowners who do not wish to give up their land or live near the blighted construction site.</p>
<p>For a more in-depth look, <a href="http://flyvbjerg.plan.aau.dk/bftruthlyingpub.php">Bent Flyvbjerg</a> has extensively studied cost overruns of large projects and similar topics:<br />
<em>How Optimism Bias and Strategic Misrepresentation Undermine Implementation</em> Concept Report No 17 Chapter 3, Bent Flyvbjerg, January 4, 2007.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Characteristics of Large Infrastructure Projects</strong></p>
<p>Large infrastructure projects, and planning for such projects, generally have the following characteristics (Flyvbjerg and Cowi, 2004):</p>
<p>• Such projects are inherently risky due to long planning horizons and complex interfaces.<br />
• Technology is often not standard.<br />
• Decision making and planning is often multi-actor processes with conflicting interests.<br />
• Often the project scope or ambition level change significantly over time.<br />
• Statistical evidence shows that such unplanned events are often unaccounted for, leaving budget contingencies inadequate.<br />
• As a consequence, misinformation about costs, benefits, and risks is the norm.<br />
• The result is cost overruns and/or benefit shortfalls with a majority of projects.</p>
<p><strong>Projects With Cost Overruns and Benefit Shortfalls</strong></p>
<p>The list of examples of projects with cost overruns and/or benefit shortfalls is seemingly endless (Flyvbjerg, 2005a).</p>
<p>Boston‘s Big Dig, &#8211; 275 percent or US$11 billion over budget in constant dollars when it opened, and further overruns are accruing due to faulty construction.</p>
<p>Denver‘s $5 billion International Airport were close to 200 percent higher than estimated costs.</p>
<p>The overrun on the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge retrofit was $2.5 billion, or more than 100 percent, even before construction started.</p>
<p>The Channel tunnel between the UK and France came in 80 percent over budget for construction and 140 percent over for financing. At the initial public offering, Eurotunnel, the private owner of the tunnel, lured investors by telling them that 10 percent “would be a reasonable allowance for the possible impact of unforeseen circumstances on construction costs.”</p>
<p><strong>Policy Implications</strong></p>
<p>The policy implications of the results presented above are as follows:</p>
<p>• Lawmakers, investors, and the public cannot trust information about costs, benefits, and risks of large infrastructure projects produced by promoters and planners of such projects.</p>
<p>• The current way of planning large infrastructure projects is ineffective in conventional economic terms, i.e., it leads to Pareto-inefficient investments.</p>
<p>• There is a strong need for reform in policy and planning for large infrastructure projects.</p></blockquote>
<p>[hat tip: <a href="http://boundrationality.blogspot.com/2007/09/study-of-large-infrastructure-projects.html">bound rationality</a>]</p>
<p>Also, the <a href="http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/01/05/pm_fiscal_stimulus/">wisdom of Tyler Cowen</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>…quick projects are usually wasteful projects. Good new projects need to be thought out and planned. The environmental impact study alone can take years. But Obama has told the state governments they will have to “use it or lose it” when it comes to federal grants. The result will be a lot of poorly conceived projects just to capture the money.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The biggest problem with a fiscal stimulus is this: our economic problems stem from having spent too much in the first place. Now that our homes are no longer rising in value every year and America is aging, more saving is in order, not more spending. Recovery will come only when we discover which new and valuable things the economy should produce as it shifts out of real estate and finance. Simply borrowing and doling out more cash doesn’t solve that problem.</p></blockquote>
<p>[hat tip: <a href="http://www.positiveliberty.com/2009/01/smart-people-critique-the-stimulus.html">Positive Liberty</a>]</p>
<p>and Harvard&#8217;s <a href="http://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/faculty-staff-directory/linda-bilmes">Linda Bilmes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A good play to start looking for lessons is by analyzing the three biggest recent examples of heavy government spending on infrastructure: the Iraqi reconstruction effort, Hurricane Katrina reconstruction, and the Big Dig artery construction in Boston. Let me start by pointing out that all of these were plagued by a number of serious problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>(more <a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/01/the-fiscal-stimulus-lessons-from-katrina-iraq-and-the-big-dig.html">from Alex Tabarrok</a>)</p>
<p>And if the government really wanted to, it could easily find positive NPV projects by butting its nose in the business of anti-growth cities that are unreasonably down-zoned by anti-growth policies, as noted at <a href="http://www.winterspeak.com/2008/11/putting-humpty-dumpty-together-again.html">winterspeak</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Infrastructure Spending will be allocated the way Infrastructure Spending is always allocated &#8212; it will be based on political expediency, not whether it is a positive net present value or not. If Infrastructure was based on positive net present value, we&#8217;d have sky scrape[rs] being built in San Francisco, and 8 story apartment complexes built in Cambridge, MA, and I don&#8217;t see a whole lot of either going on.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my opinion, there is only one true test of a positive net present value, and that is whether private capital is willing to take on a particular project. And, if private enterprise is willing to risk capital to achieve a particular endeavor, why not let them put their own money on the line instead of taxpayer funds.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that big projects tend to go over-budget. Even the rare big projects that are showboated as being a positive NPV investments for society, rarely are after all is said and done as their actually cost far exceed their original budgets. When private projects (positive NPV or negative) are over-budget, investors who took the risk are on the hook for the losses. When public projects are over-budget, the taxpayers are on the hook for the losses. And when it comes to big, ambitious projects, budget over-runs and sizable losses are frequent.</p>
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		<title>Matt Yglesias fails to make the right case against highways</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rationalitate</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Matt Yglesias is one of the best mainstream bloggers on land use/transportation that I know of.  As one blogger (who I don&#8217;t recall right now) once said, his urban planning and transportation posts could be blogs in their own right.  However, it&#8217;s puzzling that in an article for Cato Unbound, he comes up [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Yglesias is one of the best mainstream bloggers on land use/transportation that I know of.  As one blogger (who I don&#8217;t recall right now) once said, his <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/tag/planning">urban planning</a> and <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/tag/transportation">transportation</a> posts could be blogs in their own right.  However, it&#8217;s puzzling that <a href="http://www.cato-unbound.org/2008/11/12/matthew-yglesias/politics-compromises-the-libertarian-project/">in an article for Cato Unbound</a>, he comes up with such a pathetic rejoinder to the <a href="http://rationalitate.blogspot.com/2008/10/reasons-commenters-put-reason.html">O&#8217;Toole/Cox/Poole &#8220;vulgar libertarian&#8221; transportation cabal</a>, who don&#8217;t seem to have <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/06/free-market-impostors/">ever met a road they didn&#8217;t like</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Or consider the fact that Randall <em>[sic]</em> O’Toole is indignant about the prospect of public expenditures on mass transit systems, but appears to have little to say about public funding of highways. This, too, looks more like a case of narrow business interests than sterling free market principles.</p></blockquote>
<p>While Yglesias&#8217; instincts are right – current transportation markets in America are highly distorted – the reason they&#8217;re distorted has little to do with the ways highways are financed.  Based on some basic figures, Randal O&#8217;Toole <a href="http://ti.org/antiplanner/?p=500" rel="nofollow">concludes</a> that the vast majority of road funding – over 80% – comes out of user fees.  Now, of course there are still some subsidies there, but it&#8217;s really nothing compared to the subsidies that mass transit systems receive, which in America never even come close to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farebox_recovery_ratio">covering operating costs</a>, never mind capital expenditures.  Now, <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/07/30/urbanism-legend-gas-taxes-covers-all-costs-of-road-use/">there are some problems</a> with the 80% number, such as the government&#8217;s favorable access to bond markets and the legacy of infrastructure that <a href="http://rationalitate.blogspot.com/2008/05/road-building-and-great-depression.html">wasn&#8217;t paid for with user fees</a>, but all in all, it&#8217;s hard to argue that roads have a subsidy advantage over mass transit.</p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s not to say that Yglesias doesn&#8217;t have a point when he says that libertarians and <a href="http://marketurbanism.com/2008/07/23/conservatives-and-urbanism/">conservatives</a> have blind spots when it comes to how they see transportation.  But the real government benefit that the road/car system has over mass transit is density: there are innumerable regulations at every level of government in the United States which favor low-density, single-family detached housing over the denser forms that dominated non-rural areas before the 20th century.  Successful roads as we have in America require this low density to remain (almost) financially solvent – it would be very difficult to cope with people&#8217;s road needs if they were allowed to build as densely as they would without maximum density zoning rules and minimum parking regulations.</p>
<p>As a thought experiment, imagine your local town/neighborhood with twice the density.  Chances are, the roads would quickly become very congested.  They would have to be widened, which would require money, and even more money than normal, because the government would have to purchase valuable land next to existing roads.  (That is, assuming that eminent domain is not used.)  The gas tax would have to be raised, and soon the costs would get out of hand.  On the other hand, mass transit would become <em>more</em> profitable rather than less, because much less track needs to be laid to satisfy the same demand, and mass transit systems have much more excess capacity than roads.  If densities are limited, though, then this alleviates both stress on roads that go through valuable urban property (which are expensive and difficult to widen) and forces people to drive farther, thus paying more in user fees.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a legitimate case to be made against American transportation and land use policy, but condemning highway subsidies ain&#8217;t it.</p>
<p><em>This post was written by Stephen Smith, who writes for his own blog called <a href="http://rationalitate.blogspot.com">Rationalitate</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>Reason&#8217;s Commenters Put Reason&#8217;s Contributers to Shame on Urbanism</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rationalitate</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Reason Magazine, the Reason Foundation, and Cato are generally pretty okay libertarian standard-bearers, but they lose serious libertarian cred when it comes to land use.  In those areas, they&#8217;ve been completely co-opted by hacks like Randal O&#8217;Toole, Wendell Cox, and Robert Poole, who take every opportunity to bash the budding New Urbanist movement over [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason Magazine, the Reason Foundation, and Cato are generally pretty okay libertarian standard-bearers, but they lose serious libertarian cred when it comes to land use.  In those areas, they&#8217;ve been completely co-opted by hacks like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_O'Toole">Randal O&#8217;Toole</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Cox">Wendell Cox</a>, and <a href="http://www.reason.org/poole.shtml">Robert Poole</a>, who take every opportunity to bash the budding New Urbanist movement over its support of anti-sprawl land use regulations, without recognizing that the biggest part of the New Urbanist agenda is to repeal the highly restrictive minimum density zoning laws, minimum parking requirements, and other regulations that limit the sort of unregulated, organic growth that we see in the oldest and most desired parts of American and European cities today.</p>
<p>So anyway, it was totally unsurprising to see <a href="http://reason.com/blog/show/129725.html">this article</a> by Cox referenced in reason.com&#8217;s blog, where he blames the recent subprime meltdown on New Urbanism.  But what I <em>was</em> surprised to see is the incredible outpour of knowledge in the <a href="http://reason.com/blog/show/129725.html#comments">comments section</a>, where various commenters methodically rip Cox&#8217;s argument to shreds.  Reason ought to look into its land use and transportation coverage, and instead of relying on these tired one-trick ponies, perhaps hire some of the commentators.  They, at least, recognize that New Urbanism is <em>nothing</em> compared to the already-entrenched pro-sprawl regulations that have been in place since the advent of the automobile.</p>
<p><em>This post was written by Stephen Smith, who has his own blog called <a href="http://rationalitate.blogspot.com">Rationalitate</a>.</em></p>
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