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		<title>By: UrbanRio</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanRio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Private&quot; roads are not a new idea. Many subdivisions are built with private roads that are maintained by the HOA or some other neighborhood funded body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Private&#8221; roads are not a new idea. Many subdivisions are built with private roads that are maintained by the HOA or some other neighborhood funded body.</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanRio</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-8673</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanRio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Private&quot; roads are not a new idea. Many subdivisions are built with private roads that are maintained by the HOA or some other neighborhood funded body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Private&#8221; roads are not a new idea. Many subdivisions are built with private roads that are maintained by the HOA or some other neighborhood funded body.</p>
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		<title>By: UrbanRio</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-8674</link>
		<dc:creator>UrbanRio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Private&quot; roads are not a new idea. Many subdivisions are built with private roads that are maintained by the HOA or some other neighborhood funded body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Private&#8221; roads are not a new idea. Many subdivisions are built with private roads that are maintained by the HOA or some other neighborhood funded body.</p>
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		<title>By: Market Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-2423</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly...  I do see your point.

When I said &quot;slice&quot; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#039;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.

Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#039;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly&#8230;  I do see your point.</p>
<p>When I said &#8220;slice&#8221; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.</p>
<p>Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#8217;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</p>
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		<title>By: MarketUrbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-8670</link>
		<dc:creator>MarketUrbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly...  I do see your point.

When I said &quot;slice&quot; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#039;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.

Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#039;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly&#8230;  I do see your point.</p>
<p>When I said &#8220;slice&#8221; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.</p>
<p>Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#8217;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</p>
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		<title>By: MarketUrbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-8671</link>
		<dc:creator>MarketUrbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly...  I do see your point.

When I said &quot;slice&quot; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#039;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.

Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#039;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly&#8230;  I do see your point.</p>
<p>When I said &#8220;slice&#8221; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.</p>
<p>Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#8217;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</p>
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		<title>By: MarketUrbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-8672</link>
		<dc:creator>MarketUrbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly...  I do see your point.

When I said &quot;slice&quot; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#039;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.

Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#039;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are varying definitions of private, but I meant privately owned by some entity (whether it be an individual or cooperative), as opposed to publicly&#8230;  I do see your point.</p>
<p>When I said &#8220;slice&#8221; up the land, I meant to infer that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily need to be used as a roadway.  Perhaps they could agree to divide the former cul-de-sac into pieces and each could use it as a lawn, or whatever each chooses.</p>
<p>Although it probably depends on roads to exist, such a cooperative property would still be adjacent to an existing road at the nearest nodal intersection.  Residents probably don&#8217;t necessarily need to be mobile with an automobile within the cooperative.  Perhaps, it could be developed as a large apartment complex with underground parking.  But, property rights would have to be allowed such that the cul-de-sac itself does not need to stay in-tact.</p>
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		<title>By: Market Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/11/18/cul-de-sacs-privatize-em/#comment-2421</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the referrals, Daniel!

You are right that it&#039;s not as simple as just privatizing and deregulating, without re-examining property rights.  Without getting into anarchist theories, government probably needs some regulatory role in land use, even in the most free-market setting.  This would be necessary to prevent situations like you mention, where one person owns the land surrounding a neighbor.  That situation is referred to as &quot;forestalling&quot;, and is considered an act of coercion, even by the staunchest proponents of property rights.  At a minimum, I would imagine property rights regulations would have to stipulate that one property owner could not hamper the use of an other&#039;s property through forestalling or other acts of coercion.  

Nonetheless, I consider such discussions somewhat utopian in this day and age, but I think it&#039;s worthwhile to liberalize what we can, and shift the dialogue in the direction towards a more free society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the referrals, Daniel!</p>
<p>You are right that it&#8217;s not as simple as just privatizing and deregulating, without re-examining property rights.  Without getting into anarchist theories, government probably needs some regulatory role in land use, even in the most free-market setting.  This would be necessary to prevent situations like you mention, where one person owns the land surrounding a neighbor.  That situation is referred to as &#8220;forestalling&#8221;, and is considered an act of coercion, even by the staunchest proponents of property rights.  At a minimum, I would imagine property rights regulations would have to stipulate that one property owner could not hamper the use of an other&#8217;s property through forestalling or other acts of coercion.  </p>
<p>Nonetheless, I consider such discussions somewhat utopian in this day and age, but I think it&#8217;s worthwhile to liberalize what we can, and shift the dialogue in the direction towards a more free society.</p>
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