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	<title>Comments on: NYC 20-Somethings&#8217; Stagnant Wages and Higher Cost of Living</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/25/nyc-20-somethings-stagnant-wages-and-higher-cost-of-living/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those wages are adjusted for inflation, so it&#039;s not _that_ surprising.

In addition to those effects suggested above, there are a few factors that could affect this

1) College degrees might not be correlated with higher wages &lt;i&gt;for young workers&lt;/i&gt;. I think you are right that people are spending more time in the classroom. In addition, people are spending more time in their early adulthood in a kind of extended adolescence.

2) College degree rates have gone up everywhere, so having a college degree confers less competitive advantage now than it used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those wages are adjusted for inflation, so it&#8217;s not _that_ surprising.</p>
<p>In addition to those effects suggested above, there are a few factors that could affect this</p>
<p>1) College degrees might not be correlated with higher wages <i>for young workers</i>. I think you are right that people are spending more time in the classroom. In addition, people are spending more time in their early adulthood in a kind of extended adolescence.</p>
<p>2) College degree rates have gone up everywhere, so having a college degree confers less competitive advantage now than it used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/25/nyc-20-somethings-stagnant-wages-and-higher-cost-of-living/#comment-8491</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those wages are adjusted for inflation, so it&#039;s not _that_ surprising.

In addition to those effects suggested above, there are a few factors that could affect this

1) College degrees might not be correlated with higher wages &lt;i&gt;for young workers&lt;/i&gt;. I think you are right that people are spending more time in the classroom. In addition, people are spending more time in their early adulthood in a kind of extended adolescence.

2) College degree rates have gone up everywhere, so having a college degree confers less competitive advantage now than it used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those wages are adjusted for inflation, so it&#8217;s not _that_ surprising.</p>
<p>In addition to those effects suggested above, there are a few factors that could affect this</p>
<p>1) College degrees might not be correlated with higher wages <i>for young workers</i>. I think you are right that people are spending more time in the classroom. In addition, people are spending more time in their early adulthood in a kind of extended adolescence.</p>
<p>2) College degree rates have gone up everywhere, so having a college degree confers less competitive advantage now than it used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nelson</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/25/nyc-20-somethings-stagnant-wages-and-higher-cost-of-living/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have been much more useful if they showed median wages for &quot;20-somethings&quot; &lt;i&gt;with college degrees.&lt;/i&gt; 

Instead we are left with fairly meaningless statistic. Perhaps in the 1970s, the wage distribution was tighter around the mean -- and perhaps now the 20-somethings are more divided between high-paid college grads and low-paid messengers. (As you can see, the median would be unaffected by such a shift.)

Come to think of it, since the 1970s, a huge chunk of the traditional middle class has left Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx. These days, the city is largely comprised of four demographic zones:

A) &quot;Manhattan&quot;, including Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg, etc.

B) Immigrant neighborhoods, such as Jackson Heights, Sunset Park, Ozone Park, Flushing, etc.

C) &quot;Underclass&quot; or &quot;ghetto&quot; or pick-your-euphemism neighborhoods, like East New York, Hunts Point, Far Rockaway, etc.

Though there are still some old-style middle class areas, they are vanishing.

So maybe there is something to my theory. Or, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been much more useful if they showed median wages for &#8220;20-somethings&#8221; <i>with college degrees.</i> </p>
<p>Instead we are left with fairly meaningless statistic. Perhaps in the 1970s, the wage distribution was tighter around the mean &#8212; and perhaps now the 20-somethings are more divided between high-paid college grads and low-paid messengers. (As you can see, the median would be unaffected by such a shift.)</p>
<p>Come to think of it, since the 1970s, a huge chunk of the traditional middle class has left Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx. These days, the city is largely comprised of four demographic zones:</p>
<p>A) &#8220;Manhattan&#8221;, including Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg, etc.</p>
<p>B) Immigrant neighborhoods, such as Jackson Heights, Sunset Park, Ozone Park, Flushing, etc.</p>
<p>C) &#8220;Underclass&#8221; or &#8220;ghetto&#8221; or pick-your-euphemism neighborhoods, like East New York, Hunts Point, Far Rockaway, etc.</p>
<p>Though there are still some old-style middle class areas, they are vanishing.</p>
<p>So maybe there is something to my theory. Or, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nelson</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/06/25/nyc-20-somethings-stagnant-wages-and-higher-cost-of-living/#comment-8490</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have been much more useful if they showed median wages for &quot;20-somethings&quot; &lt;i&gt;with college degrees.&lt;/i&gt; 

Instead we are left with fairly meaningless statistic. Perhaps in the 1970s, the wage distribution was tighter around the mean -- and perhaps now the 20-somethings are more divided between high-paid college grads and low-paid messengers. (As you can see, the median would be unaffected by such a shift.)

Come to think of it, since the 1970s, a huge chunk of the traditional middle class has left Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx. These days, the city is largely comprised of four demographic zones:

A) &quot;Manhattan&quot;, including Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg, etc.

B) Immigrant neighborhoods, such as Jackson Heights, Sunset Park, Ozone Park, Flushing, etc.

C) &quot;Underclass&quot; or &quot;ghetto&quot; or pick-your-euphemism neighborhoods, like East New York, Hunts Point, Far Rockaway, etc.

Though there are still some old-style middle class areas, they are vanishing.

So maybe there is something to my theory. Or, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been much more useful if they showed median wages for &#8220;20-somethings&#8221; <i>with college degrees.</i> </p>
<p>Instead we are left with fairly meaningless statistic. Perhaps in the 1970s, the wage distribution was tighter around the mean &#8212; and perhaps now the 20-somethings are more divided between high-paid college grads and low-paid messengers. (As you can see, the median would be unaffected by such a shift.)</p>
<p>Come to think of it, since the 1970s, a huge chunk of the traditional middle class has left Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx. These days, the city is largely comprised of four demographic zones:</p>
<p>A) &#8220;Manhattan&#8221;, including Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Williamsburg, etc.</p>
<p>B) Immigrant neighborhoods, such as Jackson Heights, Sunset Park, Ozone Park, Flushing, etc.</p>
<p>C) &#8220;Underclass&#8221; or &#8220;ghetto&#8221; or pick-your-euphemism neighborhoods, like East New York, Hunts Point, Far Rockaway, etc.</p>
<p>Though there are still some old-style middle class areas, they are vanishing.</p>
<p>So maybe there is something to my theory. Or, maybe not.</p>
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