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	<title>Comments on: Vending Machine Economics in Japan</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Nelson</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that BAMN is take-out only, so that ought to limit the number of panhandlers. 

Bay Ridge is a pretty decent place to live, if you can deal with being tethered to the &quot;R&quot; Train. On the upside, I like the Great Wall Supermarket on Ft. Hamilton Pkwy &amp; 68 St -- if that counts as being in Bay Ridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that BAMN is take-out only, so that ought to limit the number of panhandlers. </p>
<p>Bay Ridge is a pretty decent place to live, if you can deal with being tethered to the &#8220;R&#8221; Train. On the upside, I like the Great Wall Supermarket on Ft. Hamilton Pkwy &amp; 68 St &#8212; if that counts as being in Bay Ridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nelson</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-8397</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that BAMN is take-out only, so that ought to limit the number of panhandlers. 

Bay Ridge is a pretty decent place to live, if you can deal with being tethered to the &quot;R&quot; Train. On the upside, I like the Great Wall Supermarket on Ft. Hamilton Pkwy &amp; 68 St -- if that counts as being in Bay Ridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that BAMN is take-out only, so that ought to limit the number of panhandlers. </p>
<p>Bay Ridge is a pretty decent place to live, if you can deal with being tethered to the &#8220;R&#8221; Train. On the upside, I like the Great Wall Supermarket on Ft. Hamilton Pkwy &amp; 68 St &#8212; if that counts as being in Bay Ridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Market Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Bill.  Coincidently, I just moved to (almost as dense as Tokyo) Bay Ridge.

I need to check out Bamn.  I wonder if panhandlers and homeless will be a problem late at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Bill.  Coincidently, I just moved to (almost as dense as Tokyo) Bay Ridge.</p>
<p>I need to check out Bamn.  I wonder if panhandlers and homeless will be a problem late at night.</p>
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		<title>By: MarketUrbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-8396</link>
		<dc:creator>MarketUrbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Bill.  Coincidently, I just moved to (almost as dense as Tokyo) Bay Ridge.

I need to check out Bamn.  I wonder if panhandlers and homeless will be a problem late at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Bill.  Coincidently, I just moved to (almost as dense as Tokyo) Bay Ridge.</p>
<p>I need to check out Bamn.  I wonder if panhandlers and homeless will be a problem late at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nelson</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I was using square miles, but was probably using a dubious source for my data.

In any event, 35000 / mi^2 is a little more dense than &lt;a href=&quot;http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=11209&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bay Ridge&lt;/a&gt;, or about the same as some parts of &lt;a href=&quot;http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=90005&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Los Angeles&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s not a crazy high density. Also, my own observations of Japanese cities sort of reminded me of Queens and Los Angeles.

Thank you for the link to BAMN! If banks and airlines can automate, then why not restaurants? Or for that matter, how about drug stores and groceries?

BAMN looks like they took the idea from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_&amp;_Hardart&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Horn &amp; Hardart&lt;/a&gt;.At the risk of coming across as a Boring Old-Timer, I will say that I recall many unremarkable (though fun) meals at the Horn &amp; Hardart Automats in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Unlike BAMN, they had lots of seating -- of the type one might find in a cafeteria. 

Also unlike BAMN, they did not cater to the cool kids wearing backwards-facing baseball caps (a breed which of course did not exist then), but were instead mostly for office workers by day, and (from what I remember), many loners in the evening. Eventually, the restaurants became kind of drab, and Horn &amp; Hardart converted their Automats to Burger King franchises.

It will be interesting to see what happens to BAMN in 25years. (Or in 25 months...?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I was using square miles, but was probably using a dubious source for my data.</p>
<p>In any event, 35000 / mi^2 is a little more dense than <a href="http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=11209&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" rel="nofollow">Bay Ridge</a>, or about the same as some parts of <a href="http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=90005&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" rel="nofollow">Los Angeles</a>. It&#8217;s not a crazy high density. Also, my own observations of Japanese cities sort of reminded me of Queens and Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Thank you for the link to BAMN! If banks and airlines can automate, then why not restaurants? Or for that matter, how about drug stores and groceries?</p>
<p>BAMN looks like they took the idea from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_&amp;_Hardart" rel="nofollow">Horn &amp; Hardart</a>.At the risk of coming across as a Boring Old-Timer, I will say that I recall many unremarkable (though fun) meals at the Horn &amp; Hardart Automats in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Unlike BAMN, they had lots of seating &#8212; of the type one might find in a cafeteria. </p>
<p>Also unlike BAMN, they did not cater to the cool kids wearing backwards-facing baseball caps (a breed which of course did not exist then), but were instead mostly for office workers by day, and (from what I remember), many loners in the evening. Eventually, the restaurants became kind of drab, and Horn &amp; Hardart converted their Automats to Burger King franchises.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what happens to BAMN in 25years. (Or in 25 months&#8230;?)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Nelson</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-8395</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I was using square miles, but was probably using a dubious source for my data.

In any event, 35000 / mi^2 is a little more dense than &lt;a href=&quot;http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=11209&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bay Ridge&lt;/a&gt;, or about the same as some parts of &lt;a href=&quot;http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=90005&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Los Angeles&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s not a crazy high density. Also, my own observations of Japanese cities sort of reminded me of Queens and Los Angeles.

Thank you for the link to BAMN! If banks and airlines can automate, then why not restaurants? Or for that matter, how about drug stores and groceries?

BAMN looks like they took the idea from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_&amp;_Hardart&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Horn &amp; Hardart&lt;/a&gt;.At the risk of coming across as a Boring Old-Timer, I will say that I recall many unremarkable (though fun) meals at the Horn &amp; Hardart Automats in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Unlike BAMN, they had lots of seating -- of the type one might find in a cafeteria. 

Also unlike BAMN, they did not cater to the cool kids wearing backwards-facing baseball caps (a breed which of course did not exist then), but were instead mostly for office workers by day, and (from what I remember), many loners in the evening. Eventually, the restaurants became kind of drab, and Horn &amp; Hardart converted their Automats to Burger King franchises.

It will be interesting to see what happens to BAMN in 25years. (Or in 25 months...?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I was using square miles, but was probably using a dubious source for my data.</p>
<p>In any event, 35000 / mi^2 is a little more dense than <a href="http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=11209&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" rel="nofollow">Bay Ridge</a>, or about the same as some parts of <a href="http://zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=90005&amp;x=0&amp;y=0" rel="nofollow">Los Angeles</a>. It&#8217;s not a crazy high density. Also, my own observations of Japanese cities sort of reminded me of Queens and Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Thank you for the link to BAMN! If banks and airlines can automate, then why not restaurants? Or for that matter, how about drug stores and groceries?</p>
<p>BAMN looks like they took the idea from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_&amp;_Hardart" rel="nofollow">Horn &amp; Hardart</a>.At the risk of coming across as a Boring Old-Timer, I will say that I recall many unremarkable (though fun) meals at the Horn &amp; Hardart Automats in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Unlike BAMN, they had lots of seating &#8212; of the type one might find in a cafeteria. </p>
<p>Also unlike BAMN, they did not cater to the cool kids wearing backwards-facing baseball caps (a breed which of course did not exist then), but were instead mostly for office workers by day, and (from what I remember), many loners in the evening. Eventually, the restaurants became kind of drab, and Horn &amp; Hardart converted their Automats to Burger King franchises.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what happens to BAMN in 25years. (Or in 25 months&#8230;?)</p>
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		<title>By: Market Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I think you got your data in km^2.  According to this, Tokyo seems to be about 35,000 per square mile:
http://www.demographia.com/db-tokyo-ward.htm

Which, would make it a 3x the density compared to NYC or Berlin according to this:
http://alain-bertaud.com/images/Average%20Density%20graph.pdf
(35,000 per square mile is about 135/hectare)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I think you got your data in km^2.  According to this, Tokyo seems to be about 35,000 per square mile:<br />
<a href="http://www.demographia.com/db-tokyo-ward.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.demographia.com/db-tokyo-ward.htm</a></p>
<p>Which, would make it a 3x the density compared to NYC or Berlin according to this:<br />
<a href="http://alain-bertaud.com/images/Average%20Density%20graph.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://alain-bertaud.com/images/Average%20Density%20graph.pdf</a><br />
(35,000 per square mile is about 135/hectare)</p>
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		<title>By: MarketUrbanism</title>
		<link>http://marketurbanism.com/2008/05/20/vending-machine-economics/#comment-8394</link>
		<dc:creator>MarketUrbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, I think you got your data in km^2.  According to this, Tokyo seems to be about 35,000 per square mile:
http://www.demographia.com/db-tokyo-ward.htm

Which, would make it a 3x the density compared to NYC or Berlin according to this:
http://alain-bertaud.com/images/Average%20Density%20graph.pdf
(35,000 per square mile is about 135/hectare)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I think you got your data in km^2.  According to this, Tokyo seems to be about 35,000 per square mile:<br />
<a href="http://www.demographia.com/db-tokyo-ward.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.demographia.com/db-tokyo-ward.htm</a></p>
<p>Which, would make it a 3x the density compared to NYC or Berlin according to this:<br />
<a href="http://alain-bertaud.com/images/Average%20Density%20graph.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://alain-bertaud.com/images/Average%20Density%20graph.pdf</a><br />
(35,000 per square mile is about 135/hectare)</p>
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